How ISIS Began in Colorado

How ISIS Began in Colorado (interview with Dr. Nabeel Jabbour – Part 1)

The next few posts will be audios from the Zwemer Centre for Muslim Studies.

They are a series of interviews with Dr. Nabeel Jabbour about the origins an influences behind the rise of present day extreme Islamism.

The roots of this extremism stretch back to surprising places.

I had recently come across a lot of the content of this particular audio from a “secular” source on ANB radio

4 thoughts on “How ISIS Began in Colorado

  1. The woman who came to his door is an outlier. But he begins generalizing already. I can understand his concern over that “Christmas song.” (I don’t think they used the word Christmas in the telling of the story, but that’s when the song is played. For a month or so before Christmas). Especially being played in the church — but then, on second thought, what’s so bad about “playing the role of a matchmaker” in the context of backward cultures [I mean this more the way we usually mean it, not the way that was being said in the recording… before Mohammed and Islam] — cultures that have match-makers (like in Muslim cultures) or push or force people into marriages? Maybe that’s the very problem (the shock that no one is being forced). But I do find it inappropriate and somewhat coercive (in more of a subtle way in our environment of freedoms); particularly in the context of church. (He would have been happier at a church I attended in the seventies; no dances there, nor for their school which I didn’t attend except for first and second grades.) I remember when I really listened to the words in that song, like when I was fortyish; I chalked it up to a subculture (maybe New York City or the like). It had never been a large presence in my life. But you hear it, like maybe in a nice department store along with Santa Baby. He spent time in New York. But then there’s the generalizing again.

    I don’t know how he got into contact with all the places he was going to be sent. It sounds like a sad experience. Then again, we now have one of the worst best examples of a New Yorker for a president (and now his new communications director — ugh). But he, the man in the story, was here in the fifties. Maybe I’m just not very aware of what the fifties were really like. Trump was born mid-forties.

    Looking at the man’s story, it doesn’t make sense to start rationalizing slavery. The racism he saw was due to inclinations that prefer slavery and lower classes.

    I’m glad the men who make these recording pondered at the end that the man had a choice. He could have concluded that everyone is bad… or bad exists everywhere — rather than insisting there has to be something good about Islam that can be attained if we force things on people.

  2. Sorry: “fifties” is a mistake I mistakenly passed along. It was the late forties. At that time, there was residual resentment over slavery ending. And there were few options for all women.

    … an HBO Movie About Joe Paterno

    David Boddiger

    President Trump’s new communications director Anthony Scaramucci, who has proven to be a skilled scandal–mongerer just like his new boss, cited disgraced former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno in a bizarre CNN interview on Thursday. In that interview, Scaramucci, referencing Paterno, lectured CNN anchor Chris Cuomo about honor, dignity, and respect.

    Scaramucci’s adulation of the late Paterno, whose career ended in disgrace in 2011 while his assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky, was convicted of sexually assaulting several boys over at least 15 years, raised eyebrows after “The Mooch” made the comments to CNN. But Scaramucci had been publicly expressing his admiration for Paterno for several years……

  4. The article at the secular radio source you linked to is good to read in addition to listening to the Christian interviews. There are a few aspects from somewhat different angles.

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