USA – the most psychopathically homicidal nation on earth?


The USA is clearly the most homicidally psychopathic nation in the “developed” world – if not the whole world.

At least that’s the case if the US President, a large number of Republican politicians, and the NRA are correct.

What other conclusion could be drawn if the never ending string of US gun massacres is the result of mental health issues and not guns?

Is mental health really the reason the USA has a regularity of mass shootings not experienced elsewhere in the developed world?

If we rule out the gun fetishism that makes American gun ownership and availability far exceed any other “developed” nation, and if we accept the frequent claim that mental health issues and not guns are the cause of these mass shootings – what does that say about the mental health of Americans in comparison to the mental health of those everywhere else

Maybe American political authorities should consider the clear implication of their claims before diagnosing their nation.
And maybe the general population should consider the mental health of their politicians – at least of those who continue to kowtow to the gun lobby while the gun massacres continue to kill and maim their sons and daughters, husbands and wives.

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20 thoughts on “USA – the most psychopathically homicidal nation on earth?

  1. Good points, the questions of whether we are however many times crazier AND whether our lawmakers are crazy. I indeed do think some of our politicians and activists (supported by the NRA) are near crazy. And if you look at the totality of what they (not only on gun issues) want to pass, it likely goes beyond crazy to evil. How do people argue there is no right to travel or have freedom of movement, but damn-well there’s a right to guns everywhere? There’s no reason to care about freedoms for handicapped people, but damn-well for gun owners? Nevertheless, I take your main point, your real point.

    Guns are often used to kill people. More dangerous guns, more death.

  2. There’s a Presidents’ Day sale on bump stocks, the device the Las Vegas shooter put on his rifles. Slide Fire Solutions, a bump stocks manufacturer, is offering 10% off with coupon code: MAGA.

    That’s a salute to the campaign slogan of President Donald Trump, who promised to “Make America Great Again”, and who has responded to the deadly massacres in the past five months by continuing to oppose any new gun control laws.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/18/rapid-fire-rifle-device-on-special-offer-in-salute-to-donald-trump

  3. A youth baseball team in my home state is now raffling off an AR15!
    That means it’s a fundraiser and completely random who will win the item.

  4. UNBELIEVABLE!!!
    But sadly it isn’t – its just far too believable having continually seen the unhealthy nature of the US love affair with guns.

    Marleen, there are some of your recent comments that I haven’t posted. I’d prefer not to have a lot of videos in the comment section. I don’t have time to watch them all, no matter how relevant they might be.

  5. Okay.

    At least the president, today, made mention of doing something about “certain” bump stocks. I was appalled, like you, that the Texas company said “here’s to freedom” (via a hashtag) in reference to promoting more sales. The president was asked about it (I think the article you shared said that), so maybe he’s a little concerned — about the connection to him (as we see in other areas where he should also see the bigger picture). I’m pretty sure the recent shooting didn’t involve a bump stock. It involved a legal gun.

    Included in the statement today, by Trump, he was referring to things that are illegal (such as a bump stock turning a legal weapon into something illegal). So, he’s retreating to the usual Republican line about enforcing the laws we already have. If it makes sense that bump stocks should be illegal, why not AR15s, etc. (AT LEAST in most cases or at least without a more rigorous qualification or older age)?

  6. The state capital in Florida is refusing to even hear the bill the students from the recent shooting want to discuss… who have come in on buses to speak to the state legislature. The kids have arrived.

  7. Those students are probably not old enough to vote – but wait a few years until they are…

    Hopefully their vote will then make a difference and make sell-out politicians pay for their refusal to listen.

  8. People like that talk about kids not knowing what they’re doing, about kids being lazy and self-absorbed. Well, I’m with the kids — I “call BS.” The kids these days are not inferior to the adults!

  9. As students rise up to demand gun control the right aims to take them down, along with anyone who offers them support .

    After Parkland’s mass shooting, the wind seems to have changed. Students are speaking out, demanding that politicians act. And they’re getting some traction.

    Many found their voice on Twitter and directly attacked Donald Trump’s strange and distracted online response to the massacre. David Hogg, a student journalist who interviewed his classmates as the massacre was happening, has been one of the leaders of a chorus of students calling for tough action on gun control. Emma Gonzalez made a widely shared, impassioned speech which attacked the president directly, calling out the funding he has received from the National Rifle Association. Today, many of them are making their way in buses to the Florida State House to demand change.

    The survivors are not elementary school students, or public employees, either shielded from media intrusion or disbarred from speaking out. They are confident young adults, many of them media savvy, and more than capable of matching the president when it comes to online snark. Several made it clear that “thoughts and prayers” in the wake of slaughter isn’t welcome.

    So what is a rightwing media apparatus dedicated to the maintenance of unrestricted access to powerful assault weapons to do?

    By and large, the answer has been to attack the students, along with anyone who offers them a platform or any other form of support.

    full article here:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/20/how-rightwing-media-is-already-attacking-florida-teens-speaking-out

  10. So I’m guessing Matt Walsh will be sending donations to the IRS, to cover armed security in schools. Maybe he’s even going to provide private schools for everyone who wants them. Or, more likely he believes that if we could entirely get rid of taxes and government, then the market (including guns) would fix everything for everyone… or do the best we could possibly get. The world is evil; everyone to your own bunker.

  11. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/mike-huckabee-gets-lesson-on-israeli-gun-policy-florida-tweet-1.5824374

    First of all, he got this part wrong with regard to perspective in the U.S.:
    ” … to find ‘not the weapon, but a person with intent’ ”

    People like him just make up the lore they want to believe.

    The real improvement is that we in the U.S. apparently used to spend time focusing more on getting any number of people out if we could while hanging in stand-off and possible negotiation with a gunman. Now, the approach is to go directly toward the sound of the gun IN ORDER TO find the person(s) with intent holding the gun(s) and end the incident as soon as possible. Second, I have encountered a “conservative” American who is also an Israeli and pipes up on the pro-gunlobby side of any argument (against any new rules or measures in U.S. law or policy). He has then gone on to explain how great guns are in Israel. Inexplicably, what he describes in Israel involves a lot of regulation, training, and so on… while he somehow doesn’t want that for the country where I live (even if he is also a citizen and can and does vote for our laws — but doesn’t live here). He is either blind to the disjointed facts himself or is sure that the American population, at least the Christian or evangelical portion, is stupid enough not to notice the incongruity. Stupid or corrupt or some combination is what is happening. {I must add that the fact someone presents himself in blog comment sections as Israeli doesn’t mean he really is. And if he is more Evangelical (as fraught as that is) than anything else, even if Israeli, that is relevant too.}.

  12. A Canadian blogger I read posted on the 15th a blog that spoke to me, “To Our American Friends, Again” (at https://paulwilkinson.wordpress.com/). He said that when he’d posted the first in his “To Our American Friends” series (in December 2012, after the Newtown slaughter of little kids), he’d believed Americans could change their laws and their national culture toward guns.

    His post this time started, “You can’t fix this.

    I’m sorry, but the intricacies of your political system have painted you into a corner and now you are trapped and can’t get out.

    You will never fix this.”

    He ended by advising American readers that “YOU NEED TO GET OUT.”

    Have to say, the thought that God may be saying to American Christians “Come out of her” has been on my mind for some years. Last fall, my wife and I took a long-delayed cruise along the New England and Canadian Maritimes coast. At our stop in St. John, Nova Scotia, I opened a bank-account, in Canadian dollars. It’s a small amount which I add to from time to time. It becomes clearer and clearer that it’s wise we have a “start-up” fund available to us in Canada.

  13. Offensive to me is Wayne Lapier [today] including Russians (him speaking as NRA) among “we the people.”

    I would ask that you, Onesimus, include this story anyway {choosing either one (or both) of the links to the same thing} that I tried to post earlier. Note that Russia does fund the NRA.
    http://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/russians-may-have-used-the-nra-to-funnel-money-to-trump-1140293187615
    Russians may have used the NRA to funnel money to Trump —

    Duration: 5:23 The FBI is investigating whether Russian money went to the NRA to help Trump,
    according to McClatchy. The reporter who broke the story joins Ari Melber. Jan.18 2018

    http://player.theplatform.com/p/7wvmTC/MSNBCEmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_ari_nra_180118
    This, immediately above, is a second way of posting the same story — the same video interview.
    {I don’t know if you prefer one link format over another, Tim, but the content isn’t different.}

    It’s a technicality that would have to be specifically proven with records whether or not specific funds [not whether any funds] went to Trump. But Russian membership in the NRA and money from Russia is real.

    http://www.dailycamera.com/editorials/ci_31653498/editorial-nra-should-disclose-any-russian-connections
    I am now adding this article-style rather than video-recorded type information.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-democracy-commentary.html

  14. Hi Steve,
    I had a brief conversation with an American on a secular news site about this topic. He pointed out that in America there are already 324 million guns in the community so gun restrictions would have little effect unless there was a program to confiscate what was already out there – and that could never be done without causing a revolution.

    He pointed out that gun ownership has always been high, and obtaining guns easy, but it’s only relatively recently that it’s turned into the high levels of violent acts that are becoming more frequent. He wrote about a major change in mindset during his adult life time that he describes as “a relatively new cultural virus” causing “a decided difference in their modern mindset compared to previous generations who simply liked ‘regular’ guns [as compared to assault rifles – Tim] and had no contemplation of wanting to become killing machines like one finds in video games.”

    He seems to be someone who believes America has passed the point of no return with regards to gun violence.
    I tend to agree with him – but as with other things (like the support of Trump) my concern is primarily the Christian attitude – I have a lot of trouble accepting that a follower of Jesus can be a supporter and promoter of American style gun ownership.

    As far as I’m aware, the man I mention above is not a Christian.

  15. Hi, steve. I didn’t see your post before posting mine. I do think we could work with our laws of it weren’t for our politics (long-term, deep-seated). Even when there was a glimmer of reason yesterday (Rubio actually asked that people not go to their usual attitudes, and he was considering limiting magazines and guns), out came the big guns, so to speak, this morning (spewing all the cliche fears, not only about guns). It really does seem evil, or reminds me of when people would talk about “strongholds” — and there was a bit of a turncoat aspect to it. Last nkgnt, Dana showed up and said to Emma not to let anyone shut her up for being young. Today, Dana commandeered Emma’s (the “March for our lives” kids’) slogan of calling bs. There are warring spirits; I do think spirits, not just people with points of view… especially as of today (Thurs.). [There was an opening last night, though, when the Sheriff said law enforcement should be able to commit people.]

    Tim, I think it’s beyond human conflict. Ordinary humans can see better.

  16. http://deadline.com/2018/02/nra-cnn-town-hall-dana-loesch-threat-burn-her-school-shooting-1202299428/

    February 22, the woman I mentioned by first name yesterday, quote, *claimed at CPAC she feared for her life at the CNN town hall on gun violence attended by grieving students and parents from Parkland, Florida, where 17 students and adults were killed at a high school in the country’s latest assault rifle mass shooting.

    “You heard that town hall last night, they cheered the confiscation of firearms,” Loesch told conservatives at CPAC the next morning. “And it was over 5K people. I had to have a security detail to get out. I wouldn’t have been able to exit that if I did not have a private security detail. There were people rushing the stage and screaming burn her. And I came there to talk solutions.”

    {She’s a liar, by the way, as she and her type keep claiming everyone is talking about confiscation — what Tucker Carlson did the other day too when I was watching him — rather than limits on sales, age, etc.}

    ….

    This morning, Loesch announced at CPAC, “many in legacy media love mass shootings.”

    “You guys love it,” Loesch snarled at the “legacy media” covering her remarks.

    ….

    Loesch was warming the CPAC hall, if it needed warming, before NRA chief Wayne LaPierre gave his traditional fiery stump speech.

    …… *

    She also made a fake issue out of there being no town halls for black people
    (truly bizarre when she regularly argues with a man who has literally had such a townhall).

    http://danabusted.blogspot.com/2012/02/dana-and-chris-loesch-behaving-badly-at.html#.WpBNHkpMHMI

    2.10.2012
    Dana and Chris Loesch behaving badly at CPAC

    At CPAC today, the Conservative husband and wife duo of Dana and Chris Loesch …

    The far-right troublemaking duo left CPAC in order to lash out at Occupy protesters……

  17. https://www.salon.com/2018/02/23/dana-loesch-is-lying-about-the-nras-stance-on-red-flag-laws/

    * ……

    “To the extent that you’re talking about this pivot or bluster or whatever we’re seeing from the NRA and Dana Loesch about using the term ‘red flag,’ I just want to be clear that they’ve opposed this sort of measure,” William Rosen, the deputy legal director of Everytown for Gun Safety, told Salon the morning after Loesch’s CNN performance.

    Gun safety activists and sympathetic legislators have been pushing for state-level “red flag” laws — otherwise known as extreme risk protection orders (ERPOs) or gun violence restraining orders — ever since 2014, after Elliot Rodger killed six people in Isla Vista, California. ….

    ……

    In fact, the NRA has fought these “red flag” laws every step of the way. ….

    ……

    So why did Loesch claim she and the NRA support efforts to keep guns away from dangerous people, when their track record shows the opposite? Rosen suggested it’s part of a “long history” of the NRA “trying to co-opt the terminology of the gun violence prevention movement in order to scuttle actual, meaningful gun violence prevention reform.”

    The group, he said, even uses “decoy legislation” that allow “certain legislators who are in their pocket to be able to … take a vote on a bill in Congress and say, ‘I voted for background checks’ when it does nothing to close loopholes in the background check system.”

    …… *

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