04
Oct
17

America’s Most Dangerous Enemy.


From Sydney Morning Herald 3 October 2017

This is the number of people killed by Stephen Paddock in Las Vegas in the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.

It was more than the total number of gun-related deaths in Australia in all of 2016, excluding self harm.

Here’s how many gun-related deaths there have been in the US so far in 2017, also excluding self harm.

 

The scale of the image depicting 11,681 victims (up to the date of the article) had to be portrayed on a much smaller scale to fit the page.

source article:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/heres-why-australia-will-never-understand-the-us-obsession-with-guns-20171003-gyt7ys.html

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14 Responses to “America’s Most Dangerous Enemy.”


  1. October 4, 2017 at 8:58 am

    Another American gun atrocity. If it had been a single gun death caused by a Moslem, it would have immediately been added to the Islamic terrorism account.

    However, it will eventually be chalked up to business as usual in the gun worshipping USA – just one more mass shooting, albeit the worst they’ve had (to date).

  2. 2 Marleen
    October 4, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    Not happy.

  3. 3 Marleen
    October 5, 2017 at 3:30 am

    The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
    Second Amendment | Wex Legal Dictionary / Encycloped…

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment

    Most of the transcriptions of the Second Amendment on the first page of choices for websites from a search were as in the above quotation (with three commas). One had only one comma (after state).
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
    There are several versions of the text of the Second Amendment, each with capitalization or punctuation differences. Differences exist between the drafted and ratified copies, the signed copies on display, and various published transcriptions.[17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24] The importance (or lack thereof) of these differences has been the source of debate regarding the meaning and interpretation of the amendment, particularly regarding the importance of the prefatory clause.[25][26]

    One version was passed by the Congress, and a slightly different version was ratified.[27][28][29][30][31] As passed by the Congress and preserved in the National Archives, with the rest of the original hand-written copy of the Bill of Rights prepared by scribe William Lambert, the amendment says:[32]

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    A lot of “gun rights enthusiasts” say, “well, the militia in each state IS the people/the general population.” Okay. Either way, regulation is foreseen and encouraged (or taken for granted).

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infringe
    Definition of infringe

    infringed; infringing
    transitive verb
    1 : to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another infringe a patent
    2 obsolete : defeat, frustrate

    intransitive verb
    :encroach —used with on or upon infringe on our rights
    — infringer noun

    NEW! Time Traveler
    First Known Use: 1513
    SEE WORDS FROM THE SAME YEAR >

    http://shallnot.org
    James Madison, often referred to as “The Father of the Constitution,” said “that in case of a deliberate, palpable, and dangerous exercise of other powers, not granted” by the Constitution, the states not only have a right, but are “duty bound to interpose for arresting the progress of the evil.”

    And in Federalist #46, he advised a “refusal to cooperate with officers of the Union” as a method to stop unwanted or unconstitutional federal acts.

  4. 4 Marleen
    October 5, 2017 at 4:09 am

    Recently, a specially-convened task force of the Trump administration (current iteration of administration for the federal government) was asking that a lot of personal information on voters in each state be transmitted to a group of people convened by Trump or his supporters (to the task force, that is). The person who made the requests for the information (on behalf of Trump) was (is) also Secretary of State for one of the states. Therefore (having some standards), he (Kris Kobach) refused to comply with the letter he’d officially sent out. The requests had included voting history, party affiliation, social security number…

  5. October 5, 2017 at 7:30 am

    Compared to other countries with similar levels of development or socioeconomic status, the United States has exceptional homicide rates, and it’s driven by gun violence.

    see:
    http://www.humanosphere.org/science/2016/06/visualizing-gun-deaths-comparing-u-s-rest-world/

    and

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/upshot/compare-these-gun-death-rates-the-us-is-in-a-different-world.html
    and

    The gun ownership and gun homicides murder map of the world

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/interactive/2012/jul/22/gun-ownership-homicides-map

  6. 6 Marleen
    October 5, 2017 at 7:44 am

    http://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555099794/a-familiar-partisan-response-in-congress-to-las-vegas-massacre

    ……

    House Republicans are trying to advance two pieces of gun legislation this year to ease restrictions on guns. The first would make it easier to purchase gun silencers, which advocates say will prevent hearing loss by law-abiding gun owners. There is also a proposal to nationalize concealed-carry laws to let permit holders travel more easily from state to state.

    Neither bill has been scheduled for a floor vote, and neither are likely to become law this year. The bills do not have the 60-votes needed to overcome an anticipated Democratic filibuster in the Senate.

    ……

  7. 7 Marleen
    October 5, 2017 at 7:55 am

    I see these (above) efforts as potentially (that is, if accomplished they will be) infringing or encroaching upon states regulating their own gun situations. I think it would be good for states to have consistent laws across each whole state, but not for a national club and trade industry that finances candidates to try and control the whole country boosting their desired sales of products.

  8. 8 Marleen
    October 5, 2017 at 8:17 am

    Those are some interesting maps and graphs (such as at humanosphere).

  9. 9 Marleen
    October 5, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/04/las-vegas-shooting-youtube-hoax-conspiracy-theories
    ……

    Melanson – whose family was rescued by a retired firefighter and whose wife remains in the hospital following a second surgery – said he feared the propaganda on YouTube could impede law enforcement: “It’s hindering the investigation. They are creating false information that the authorities will still have to investigate. It really slows down the process.”

    The videos also hurt victims and survivors already struggling to cope with trauma, he added: “It’s not fair to all the family members who have been going through this.”

  10. October 5, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    Sadly “social media” gives a platform to almost anyone to make whatever claims they want to make. The situation is exacerbated when “celebrity” is added to the mix.

    Regarding the Las Vegas shooting, some celebrities have been reported promoting some very wild and unsubstantiated ideas. I’ve seen one claim that mass shootings since the 1960s are a result of increased prescription medication, and another claim that the name shooter was part of some “dark organisation” that was actually responsible for the attack.
    https://au.be.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/a/37353449/chloe-rose-lattanzi-shares-theory-on-2017-las-vegas-shooting/

    Not exactly the same thing that your reference was pointing out, but yet another way of adding mud to the waters, where finding actual, substantiated truth doesn’t matter any more.

    Last night I heard a quite compelling argument, actually based on research, that mass shootings were not only a result of easy access to guns (which they are) but are also encouraged by the inevitable publicity that would come afterwards. That the shooters are being given a form of celebrity for their crime.
    See first story here: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-04/the-drum-wednesday-october-4/9016516

  11. 11 Marleen
    October 5, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    Actually… in the larger body of the article, the claim that the shooter wasn’t really the shooter is mentioned. I only quoted the end of the article. It refers back to previous shootings a little bit too (and the buzzword of “false flag” — mostly to emotionally counter any thoughts of gun policy reform).

  12. 12 Marleen
    October 5, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    Here is a somewhat longer view on history (in scope more than length to view/read).

    http://player.theplatform.com/p/7wvmTC/MSNBCEmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_maddow_bguns_171004
    Gun slaughter used to move Congress to action…

    Gun violence and death used to shock the American conscience to action, until … the NRA [through lobbying and so forth] rendered Congress impotent on the issue and left Americans helpless to address an obvious problem. Duration: 7:48

  13. October 5, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    “Rethinking the reporting of the mass random shooting – or is it an autogenic massacre?” by Glynn Greensmith and Lelia Green

    and

    “Reporting mass random shootings: The copycat effect?” by Glynn Greensmith and Lelia Green

    http://ro.ecu.edu.au/do/search/?q=author_lname%3A%22Greensmith%22%20author_fname%3A%22Glynn%22&start=0&context=302996&facet=

  14. 14 Marleen
    October 6, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    http://player.theplatform.com/p/7wvmTC/MSNBCEmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_maddow_ctrump_171005
    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 10/5/17
    Trump signed law to help mentally ill get guns —
    Rachel Maddow points out the irony of Donald Trump’s remarks
    that the Las Vegas shooter was “sick and demented” when one of Trump’s
    only legislative accomplishments was a law to make it easier for the mentally ill to get guns.
    Duration: 3:55

    At the same time, I have read one of the two downloads from your last post. And I agree with it (with the writers or the indicated research) that it doesn’t necessarily follow that because there was a mass murder the mass murderer is crazy. On one level, yes, it makes sense to say that (or think it reflexively). But we could say that about murder in general, and that impulse of thought has been countered by people who don’t want the death penalty abolished. There are definitions that don’t automatically say a murderer is “nuts.” [Also, there are plenty of people with psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies who don’t murder.]


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