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The Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and 9/11


The Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and 9/11. Dr. Nabeel Jabbour interview – Part 2

This is part two of the series of interviews with Dr. Nabeel Jabbour, continuing his history of modern day Islamist extremism.
Here he shows how the events touched upon in the last audio led to Al Qeda and the attacks of September 11, 2001.

From the Zwemer Centre for Muslim Studies:
http://www.zwemercenter.com/zwemer-podcast/page/6/

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7 Responses to “The Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and 9/11”


  1. 1 Marleen
    July 31, 2017 at 9:01 am

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-haj-idUSKBN1AF0L3
    Saudi Arabia says that calls for internationalization
    of holy sites ‘a declaration of war’

    DUBAI (Reuters) – Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister called what he said was Qatar’s demand for an internationalization of the Muslim hajj pilgrimage a declaration of war against the kingdom, Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said on Sunday, but Qatar said it never made such a call.

    ……

  2. 3 Marleen
    August 2, 2017 at 12:51 am

    “Looking at it through their theological lense…” (speaking of Osama bin Laden) seems maybe a little naive. So, when Ben Laden went to leadership in Saudi Arabia and offered their military services to protect them — and leadership in Saudi Arabia wasn’t interested (partly because saudi arabia had the U.S. on their side) — he likely didn’t know what to do with himself now that the fighting in Afghanistan (against Soviet Russia with our — U.S. —
    help) was over. Didn’t known what to do with his time and energy.

    He wanted a sense of purpose and belonging. And his own people didn’t give it to him. The U.S. seems to have failed as well, in not focusing on what to do in the area after the fighting was over. But it’s not only failure by the U.S. or “the West.” Except I ponder how this was different from after defeating Germany, and we paid for (and oversaw, I think) the rebuilding of infrastructure and economy. So, we could have done some good other than chasing off “the unbelievers” — nevertheless, we’re not the only ones with money.

    And then that reminds me. So, why did we say to saudi Arabia that we would fight for them (at the time of Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait)? (And why was Ben Laden thinking the problem would spread over there? For one thing, I don’t recall there being a threat to saudi Arabia in that situation. But also… ) They can’t afford or muster up their own army/navy/airplanes, etc.? Is it that we are their mercenaries because in fact they can afford to pay for such things (no need to muster up from their own population)?

  3. 4 Marleen
    August 2, 2017 at 1:02 am

    And then that reminds me of the recent phone call(s) to saudi Arabia (particularly one) that had Trump loyalists crowing about how great it is Trump isn’t (or wasn’t) “owned by the Saudis.” He called them up and asked them to fund “safe zones” in Syria (and, supposedly, other places, but they didn’t confirm that — for instance, they were not amenable to safety in Yemen). They were like, of course we will fund your troops offering their lives to fight for people in the middle east. What do you think we’ve been doing all this time?

  4. 5 Marleen
    August 5, 2017 at 8:24 am

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-doesnt-quite-know-the-difference-between-the-kurds-and-the-quds/

    …….

    Asked if he thinks General Soleimani’s behavior will change with the Iran nuclear deal, Trump went off on tangent about how “incompetent” the deal is without answering the question at hand.

    Soon, Hewitt was asking Trump to weigh in on Hassan Nasrallah, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Abu Mohammad al-Julani and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. “Do you know the players without a scorecard, yet, Donald Trump?” he asked.

    On this point, Trump admitted that he did not, but only because “by the time we get to office, they’ll all be changed, they’ll be all gone.”

    “As far as the individual players, of course I don’t know them,” Trump added. “I’ve never met them. I haven’t been, you know, in a position to meet them.” (Neither has anyone else in the U.S. government, but that’s apparently irrelevant.) “If, if they’re still there, which is unlikely in many cases, but if they’re still there, I will know them better than I know you.”

    And a few moments later, Trump was back to saying things like, “I will be so good at the military, your head will spin.” When Hewitt insisted he wasn’t trying to ask Trump “gotcha” questions, the GOP frontrunner replied, “Well, it sounded like gotcha. You’re asking me names that — I think it’s somewhat ridiculous, but that’s okay.”

    If Trump thought Megyn Kelly’s questions were tough….

    The above article and the next one (below) are from during the campaign. But most are recent.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hezbollah-leader-echoes-trump-obama-clinton-founded-isis/story?id=41374713

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/does-trump-know-the-difference-between-hamas-hezbollah/

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/08/04/trumps-foreign-policy-the-light-and-the-darkness/

    https://www.wired.com/story/jared-kushner-middle-east/ This includes audio.
    (Apparently, Jared is brilliant; he’s figured out, for instance, that issues in the middle east and concerning peace with Israel are emotional.)

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/08/03/jared-kushner-is-right-theres-no-solution-for-mideast-peace/
    (This headline gives Jared “credit” for figuring out there is no solution. Not sure he knows it.)

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/08/04/kissinger-warns-iranian-radical-empire-could-emerge-in-a-post-isis-middle-east/

    http://www.newsweek.com/does-trump-know-what-going-middle-east-hezbollah-says-no-644564

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-07-26/trump-didnt-misspeak-on-hezbollah

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/washington-post-op-ed-shills-for-hezbollah-ally/

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/28/trumps-hezbollah-gaff-was-no-gaff/

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/242269/lebanese-pm-joins-with-hezbollah-to-con-trump

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trump-says-lebanon-front-lines-fight-against-hezbollah-despite-them-being-government-152917939

    http://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/Hezbollah-is-a-menace-5-takeaways-from-the-Trump-Hariri-Lebanon-meeting-500761

    I had a few other articles I wanted to share, but they got lost. I think these show some differing points of view and additional considerations. Besides Trump recently displaying anger or impatience with “the [U.S.] generals” for not already winning in Afghanistan when he has [another smart guy] “given them authority to win,” Lebanon has been in the news partly because of a recent visit here by their leader.

  5. 6 Marleen
    August 6, 2017 at 4:47 pm

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/as-told-by-friends-and-family-an-insiders-dissection-of-the-evolution-of-al-qaeda/
    ……

    Levy believes the key to really understanding jihadi fundamentalists like bin Laden and other al-Qaeda figures is not just to study their eschatological-fundamental-Islamic-vision of the world — but to analyze their day-to-day domestic lives too.

    “One would have to emphasize the bin Laden family,” the journalist posits. “Primarily because it’s the story of an abusive father and a family in decay.”

    Levy cites how a number of bin Laden’s children, for example, were born autistic and with numerous other diseases which were essentially untreatable since the jihadi leader was against any kind of investment in medicine or science.

    The journalist also explains how the eldest bin Laden daughter, Khadija, was married off in puberty to make pacts with other mujahed fighters. She then subsequently died in childbirth in Waziristan in 2007, despite the fact that she had been advised by doctors three years earlier to undergo a dilation procedure to cleanse her womb.

    “There is a real sense of [huge] human failings within the bin Laden family,” says Levy.

    Crossed wires

    The west, led by the United States, has attempted to purposely construct and control how bin Laden and the al-Qaeda story is portrayed in the mainstream media, but the narrative from the jihadi side has been just as carefully constructed.

    ….

    ….

    Levy argues[ …] that much of the jihadi world that surrounds al-Qaeda is a hierarchy of nations. The Saudis and Egyptians are seen in this jihadi-worldview as the intellectuals. But the Palestinians, Levy explains, are not “necessarily highly regarded in the jihadi world.”

    Levy recalls how Abdullah Yusuf Azzam, a Palestinian, who was known as the Godfather of Jihad in the Afghan conflict, ended up being […] killed in a car bomb in 1989. Many suspect that he was killed by bin Laden.

    “Palestine and Palestinian politics aren’t given a lot of status within the mujahid and jihad world,” Levy explains. “And al-Qaeda have chosen different causes that were dictated by the ethnic makeup of the movement.”

    ……

    [Long ago, my messianic rabbi conveyed that Palestinians are considered very low by their fellow Muslims or Arab allies. I don’t know what it was based on. (Was it something like observing that the Saudis were going to force the Palestinians to go along with a peace deal when all the Arab nations had, reportedly, agreed to it [but the Bush administration wasn’t interested]? Something else I’ve been aware of before is the perplexing detail that the G. “W.” Bush administration knew where bin Laden was and didn’t go after him — although part if “the story” is that he was hidden in the caves, and it would have been hard or dangerous.]

  6. 7 Marleen
    August 18, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    [My messianic rabbi’s concept of what to do about Palestinians was that we (I’m guessing a cooperative of western nations, Israel, and surrounding/Arab nations) should buy them some land in surrounding nations, just go ahead and buy it and give it to them. I think it made ideal sense but wouldn’t happen.]


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