I’ve recommended and posted a few audios from this source.
This is one includes another very interesting interview worth the listening time.
The interview starts around the 7 minute 25 second point, after some banter between the podcast presenters.
This audio and the rest in the series can be downloaded from the site at the above link.
I’ve downloaded episodes to a USB stick so I can listen to them in the car on my way to and from work. I find that much more practical than sitting at the computer to hear them.