A respected bible teacher I’ve mentioned recently has sent me four or five emails over the past day, but has now declared the “conversation is over”.
An earlier email from him had started with a reference to a Hillary Clinton quote he’d sent to me previously. The quote was a word for word transcript taken from a video he had promoted, a video I examined here: https://onesimusfiles.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/a-lesson-in-deception-and-manipulation/
He said: “Onesimus I have given you the quote, of the leading proponent of “women’s Health”(Abortion) in America, and of the leading Champion of LGBtY”Rights”, (Sexual anarchy) demanding that Religions must change their tenants(sic) in order to accommodate …”
From his endorsement of that video and his subsequent correspondence with me, it is clear that he has no interest at all in addressing the fact that he and the video totally misrepresent what Clinton actually said in that quote (see my reply to him below).
To me that is a gross act of dishonesty that he clearly supports. He insists on projecting his own meaning onto Clinton’s quote, based on his own prejudice against her. That can be seen by his redefining of “women’s health” as “abortion”.
If he can justify such a manipulation of what is clearly said to mean something entirely unrelated to the words actually spoken – what does that say about the way he teaches the Bible? If someone can’t be trusted to accurately report on something spoken in clear and simple terms, how can they be trusted to teach his followers about the meaning of scripture?
My last email to him addressed the video and the quote he had used from it.
[bible teacher] said:
here is verbatim one of the many Hillary quotes-
Far too many women are denied access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth, and laws don’t count for much if they’re not enforced,” Clinton said.“Rights have to exist in practice — not just on paper. Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed. As I have said and as I believe, the advancement of the full participation of women and girls in every aspect of their societies is the great unfinished business of the 21st century and not just for women but for everyone — and not just in far away countries but right here in the United States.”
Yes she said that, I quoted it on my blog – but the video you took it from totally distorts the meaning of what she actually said, as it seems you are also doing, by making assumptions about the intention of the quote.
As I said on my blog and in a comment on your site, the reference to changing religious beliefs could include things like female “circumcision” as practiced by some strands of Islam, or Roman Catholic attitudes to birth control, both of those clearly fit into the category of “reproductive health care and safe childbirth”.
You also quote Clinton correctly with: “I believe, the advancement of the full participation of women and girls in every aspect of their societies is the great unfinished business of the 21st century”
This is totally different to what is claimed in the video immediately after showing the short clip that you have quoted “verbatim”.
The presenter of the video excitedly claims:
““Did you see that? Did you notice that she said that the change of Christian beliefs is the unfinished business of the 20th Century? This means that she wants to persecute Christians.”
Can you see anything even resembling that claim in what Clinton actually said? Or is that claim by the presenter an absolute lie?
And as for the rest of the video and the other sensationalist lies it presents as truth; where does Clinton demand that believers: “Kneel and deny your Christian faith”?
Where does she say “CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA MUST DENY THEIR FAITH IN CHRISTIANITY”?
And how is YOUR link caption “Christians must change their Religion” in any way a true expression of anything Clinton ACTUALLY says in that video, as opposed to what deceivers CLAIM she says, as noted above?
The election is over. The next president has been chosen. So what’s the point of going over all of this again?
To me the issue hasn’t been the election or the choice of a president.
My concern has always been related to the messages being given by people who profess to be Christians or evangelicals, particularly when those messages involve outright falsehoods.
When those falsehoods are being supported and promoted by so-called Christian leadership I see even more need for concern.
My early Christian faith was severely compromised when I fell for false teaching. I almost lost that faith completely, and it took a long route to regain and rebuild it on a sounder foundation. Those false teachings were theological – and I’ve spent many years since regaining my faith trying to help people avoid my theological mistakes. However the problems don’t always have their foundation in questionable theology and doctrine. No less important is the matter of character, of integrity and of a desire to know, live and proclaim THE TRUTH.