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Prayer Shaming… article by Emma Green.


Prayer Shaming After a Mass Shooting in San Bernardino

Following the murder of at least 14 people in California, the reaction against calls for prayer has been sharp.

There’s a clear claim being made…, and one with an edge: Democrats care about doing something and taking action while Republicans waste time offering meaningless prayers.

There are many assumptions packed into these attacks on prayer: that all religious people, and specifically Christians, are gun supporters, and vice versa. That people who care about gun control can’t be religious, and if they are, they should keep quiet in the aftermath of yet another heart-wrenching act of violence. At one time in American history, liberals and conservatives shared a language of God, but that’s clearly no longer the case; any invocation of faith is taken as implicit advocacy of right-wing political beliefs.

Complete article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/prayer-gun-control-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/418563/

I wonder how some of those conclusions were reached?

Could it be because the devotion of so many “Christians” to a particular party-political stance has given an impression that makes those judgements seem valid?

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8 Responses to “Prayer Shaming… article by Emma Green.”


  1. 1 Marleen
    December 4, 2015 at 11:29 am

    It’s unfortunate of the author to set such an idea up as left versus right and as if in some unforeseeable calling to account. Even if some number of liberals complained about the rhetoric or sentiment of wanting to think and pray, it isn’t anything like a majority of liberals who are against thinking and praying or “thoughts being with” victims and survivors. Religious people (anywhere on some artificial spectrum of politics) need to recognize that the common language this author is lamenting as if lost has been coopted and used by lobbyists for a very long time up to now (a gun lobby). So many times, over and over, there’s been a cal (generally comfortable within the Republican party)l to wait and mourn and pray instead of think of solutions (in other words, instead of doing anything that could potentially put a dent in the profits of arms manufacturers). Religious people (and specifically Christian if they don’t want this outcome) ought to be more mindful — like we have wanted, for some time now, that everyday Muslims get out front of extremist fundamentalist Muslims.

  2. December 4, 2015 at 11:46 am

    One of the common problems with political discourse is he practice of dumbing down political issues into left-right, socialist-capitalist, liberal-conservative.
    The definition of those terms can be very fluid*, to the point to being meaningless – apart from being a lazy means to dismiss and demonise the views held others. Therefore one of the easy ways to denigrate Obama in America, has been to label him a “socialist” – a word that has carried negative connotations in America for decades.

    ———-
    *an example of this is the fact that Australia’s “conservative” party is called The Liberal Party.

  3. 3 Marleen
    December 6, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/week-god-12515#break

    Thought I’d share this, ran across it when I was looking for something else.

  4. 4 Marleen
    December 11, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    A few days ago, I saw U2 (actually just two members) on CNN talking about their return to France to follow through on their previously scheduled concert (that didn’t happen after the Paris attack). They also talked about street musicians (I particularly remember a piano player, who isn’t famous as far as just know, right after) who had been out in Paris for the people. I remembered, then, that there had been people in the news (not journalists, not “the media” but hardliners in the news) complaining that music was a weak response to terrorism. (U2 wasn’t discussing the prayer and thought subject in what I saw.)

    I could have decided, when these grumpy people first reacted that way, to be upset. I didn’t. I was reminded again of all this today when a different musician was in Paris (someone famous) singing the same song that I had seen people singing with the local piano player. So, the derisive reaction to music didn’t get traction in the “mad at people” universe. But it is politically correct for people to be offended over topics that get under the skin of religious people or that will be picked up on or emoted over by those on the right. I think it’s time to see the politically correct topic favoring present among the anti-PC police.

  5. December 11, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    I saw a musician playing the piano and singing after the Paris attacks – but sadly he was singing a song I loathe possibly more than any other: Imagine.

    U2 have had a big influence on my life. In the late 80s my liking of their music introduced me to someone who gave me the confidence and encouragement to end 13 years of uninterrupted paid employment so I could study full time at university.

    Also during that time at university, my connection to U2 introduced me to Gloria (now my wife of 20 years).
    While both of us have moved on from that interest in U2, both of our lives would be completely different without them.

  6. 6 Marleen
    December 11, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    Last thing I want to mention today: Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed a resolution rejecting a proposal based on Trump’s idea to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S. — all the Republicans voted in support of the resolution against the idea *except Jeff Sessions, Thom Tillis, David Vitter, and Ted Cruz.*

  7. 7 Marleen
    December 11, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    Sorry. I should have put that last item in “latest isis recruits in action (2)”.

  8. 8 Marleen
    December 15, 2015 at 2:28 am

    Someone reminded me that this committee vote may reflect which of them would like to see a recorded vote of who in the full Senate are in favor and against, rather than which way each in the committee would go in an actual floor vote… and which do not want such a record for the public (or, I would add, such a record for the world to see). Then again, in Cruz’ case, there might at least additionally be a move to look “tough” (as he follows Trump’s lead in the polls). Maybe this subject does fit okay in this topic thread.

    It’s a different, and more actual, prayer shaming.


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