In, Out and Roundabout.

87-1249563570xI1JI see the same old arguments are being made on “Revival School” about the need to be “in church” and the same kind of admonishment is being given to those who are “out of church”.

I have also seen the term “lone ranger” being used a time or two in that interaction.

One person involved in the discussion has never answered the question I posed to him a while ago: “what is more dangerous, a “lone ranger” Christian, or a lone ranger Christian who starts and leads his own “church”.?”

I asked this at a time when I knew that he had tried and failed to fit into a couple of existing churches and was trying to establish his own (a little easier to do when you have a sizeable family).

Overall that never-ending discussion is based around a wrong understanding of what “church” is – many never move on from the idea of an organised meeting in a recognised building. Yet many that ARE part of that “acceptable” face of church membership never meet with other believers out side of those meetings.

Personally I’m happy enough with what Jesus said about the situation when two or three gather in His name, whenever or wherever that may be.



photo from

<a href=””>Church Entrance</a> by Vera Kratochvil

4 thoughts on “In, Out and Roundabout.

  1. One of the most irritating aspects of the Bible to a pastor is the fact that there are no verses that say people should go to church. I know Hebrews says the deal about “forsake not the assembling” but it’s not talking about church, it’s talking about getting together to encourage each other to do good, which can happen in church, but certainly isn’t limited to it.

    Since the Bible is not adamant about church attendance and pretty much the only reason it annoys me is because I think more people should be in awe of my preaching, it seems to me I should back off it a bit. That’s been my approach. Hardly anyone comes to my church as a result.

    It was much nicer in the Dark Ages when people bought the line that you had to go to church to get mass or else you’d die in your sins. It was more effective, but not very biblical.

  2. Yes Jeff, that Hebrews passage could easily be among the top twenty most misapplied verses in the NT. I suspect the early church were too involved in BEING the church to worry about GOING to church.

    The idea of going to church is one created for the need for convenience. Christians can get along with “normal” life throughout the week with an hour or two of regular church attendance keeping them in God’s good books. They can even get their required spiritual nutrients each week via a man appointed to dish up God’s word to supplement their physical “daily bread”.

    Unfortunately most aren’t being fed by quality “chefs” using the best of ingredients. Many are being fed mud pies and don’t recognise the difference.

  3. Never let those clowns guilt you into joining in with them…

    We all get the same guilt trips but the Bible is clear what to do when the camp becomes corrupt…..

    Exodus 33:7 Moses took his tent and pitched it outside the camp, far from the camp, and called it the tabernacle of meeting. And it came to pass that everyone who sought the Lord went out to the tabernacle of meeting which was outside the camp.

    Hebrews 13:13 Therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach.

    And yes, it’s better to be a lone ranger than a lone ranger that thinks he should start his own “church”….

    Hi ho Silver…. away…..

  4. After almost 25 years “outside” there’s not much chance of being swayed by them UPS, especially those that I refer to.
    As they say “the proof is in the pudding” and I’ve seen what kind of pudding they are serving.

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