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Apr
13

RIP Calvin and Arminius (?)


In past years I was involved in vigorous debates relating to the theologies of Calvinism and Arminianism. My blog posts on those topics  led to some of the most lengthy and “colourful” replies to anything I’ve written. I see that those never ending disagreements continue on other sites.

I have a suggestion.

How about dropping those allegiances to Calvin and Arminius? How about a moratorium on references to those men and their teachings (as well as the preachers devoted to either theology) so everyone can get back to the bible itself, trusting the Holy Spirit Himself to give understanding?

IF either theology has merits, then those merits will be found IN SCRIPTURE without credit needing to be attributed to a go-between theologian or teacher of either persuasion.

Calvin and Arminius have been dead for centuries. Can we finally let them “rest in peace”?

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11 Responses to “RIP Calvin and Arminius (?)”


  1. April 23, 2013 at 9:25 am

    Tim, I appreciate your having the chutzpah to mention the elimination of such “sacred cows/golden calves” of the Christian tradition. They are harsh, two-dimensional, and foreign to the original text and context of Scripture. You might be interested to know that I am a “Messianic” believer, a non-Jew who is not completely Torah-observant, but who acknowledges the Torah in our home, leaning ever more on the actual practices that Jesus taught and observed. Therefore, I left the world of Calvinism, Arminianism, etc., etc., etc., a long time ago. May your tribe increase. ~ Dan

  2. April 23, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Thanks Dan, it’s ironic that Jews have been so long criticised by christians for relying more on the traditions and teaching of rabbis than on scripture itself – and yet most of “the church” is more devoted to a kind of “christan talmud” than to the scriptures they claim to follow.
    They have their own “rabbinical tradition” in the teachings of Augustine, Luther, Calvin, Arminius and subsequent theologians.

  3. April 23, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Hi James – your comment reminds me to give credit where credit is due. The comparison I made in my rely to Dan regarding a “christian talmud” was inspired by a post on your blog a couple of weeks or so ago.

  4. April 23, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Yes. Yes. Yes. Same applies to lots of other contentious dogmas eg millenianism-amillenianism, etc.

  5. April 23, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    If people accepted and believed what scripture actually says instead of trying to USE it to “prove” a favoured theological viewpoint, there would be far less “contentious dogmas”.

  6. April 24, 2013 at 1:12 am

    You forget one fact, however, Christianity would be no fun if we all got along. I mean seriously, what are the Gospels without the Pharisees and Scribes? What is Galatians without Judaizers? Fighting is fun. Christianity sans fighting is like chocolate chip cookies without chocolate chips.

  7. April 24, 2013 at 8:11 am

    Well Paul did write:
    “For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.” (NKJV)

    although the old KJV says it a bit more colourfully:

    “For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.”

  8. April 24, 2013 at 9:30 am

    yes, I do like that verse!

  9. 11 UnprofitableServant
    May 14, 2013 at 4:11 am

    I can’t wish for Calvin to RIP as he was a murderer…..

    His victims should have said, “Father forgive him for he doesn’t know what he does.” , but that won’t avert his eternal judgment…


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